Hans Medel von Salzburg · Lineage tree

Also known as

Hans Niedel · Hans Mendel

Description

Fifteenth-century German fencing master of the Liechtenauer tradition from Salzburg. A long sword gloss attached to his name, probably written by a student or associate, revises Sigmund ain Ringeck's gloss and cites teachings of Hans Seydenfaden von Erfurt; Paulus Hector Mair acquired it in 1539.

Teachers (1)

• person
  Hans Seydenfaden von Erfurt

  swordsKunst des Fechtens Possible

  Possible

  His gloss cites Seydenfaden's teachings; Wiktenauer says only that he may have traced his lineage through him, or may have had a lost treatise of his.

  Some evidence points to the claim, but it is thin, indirect, or in unresolved conflict with other evidence.

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  Frederico Muñoz

  Researcher, Martialis

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  His gloss cites Seydenfaden's teachings; Wiktenauer says only that he may have traced his lineage through him, or may have had a lost treatise of his.

  “He may have traced his lineage through Hans Seydenfaden von Erfurt, a member of the Fellowship of Liechtenauer, as Medel's text is the only known source that mentions teachings from the earlier master.”

  — Hans Medel. Wiktenauerlink history info

  “This may indicate that Hans Medel possessed a treatise by Seydenfaden that is now lost, or even that he was a direct student of Seydenfaden himself.”

  — Hans Seydenfaden von Erfurt. Wiktenauer link history info

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  “So dw steest in der verhangenden versatzung krump oder offen wie Seydenfaden gelert hat ist auch kurtz vnd dir gut durchwechseln”

  — Hans Seydenfaden von Erfurt. Wiktenauer link history info

Learned from documents

• menu_bookZettel (Record)info

  Kunst des Fechtens

  Probable

  Probable

  The gloss under his name comments on Liechtenauer's Recital, but Wiktenauer thinks a student or associate wrote it.

  The evidence favours the claim and nothing credible contradicts it, but it falls short of establishing it.

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  “Medel's name is attached to a manuscript fencing treatise from the late 15th or early 16th century, including an incomplete gloss of Liechtenauer's Recital on the long sword and an addendum on fencing based on "the Seven Stances"; it seems to have been written by a student or associate of Medel rather than the master himself.”

  — Hans Medel. Wiktenauerlink history info

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  “Ie hebt sich an die Zetl in der geschribenn stet die ritterliche kunst des langen schwertes die geticht Vnd gemacht hat Johannes liechtenawer”

  — Hans Medel. Wiktenauerlink history info
• menu_bookSigmund ain Ringeck's gloss of Liechtenauer's Recitalinfo

  Kunst des Fechtens

  Probable

  Probable

  Two Wiktenauer pages say the gloss under his name quotes and revises Ringeck's; same publisher, and the gloss may be a student's work.

  The evidence favours the claim and nothing credible contradicts it, but it falls short of establishing it.

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  “This gloss is unique in the Liechtenauer tradition in that it not only offers unique commentary on the Recital, but also both quotes and occasionally criticizes or corrects the earlier glosses of Sigmund ain Ringeck and Nicolaüs.”

  — Hans Medel. Wiktenauerlink history info

  “but his text primarily takes the form of a revision and expansion of Ain ringeck's long sword gloss.”

  — Sigmund ain Ringeck. Wiktenauerlink history info

Authors of these documents:

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  Johannes Liechtenauer

  Kunst des Fechtens · Zettel (Record)
• person
  Sigmund ain Ringeck

  Kunst des Fechtens · Sigmund ain Ringeck's gloss of Liechtenauer's Recital

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