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    Paysandu Sport Club

    categoryClub
    location_onBelém Brazil
    id_card

    Locations (1)

    • location_onBelém Brazil
      warning No sources cited

    Instructors (1)

    • person
      Maeda Mitsuyo
      1916

    Trained here (1)

    • Carlos Gracie
      sports_martial_artsKōdōkan Jūdō Probablebalance
      Probable – conflicting evidence recorded
      Carlos's own quoted account of training under Maeda; Silva et al. attribute Donato's contrary statement to spite, later reversed. Drysdale names Jacyntho Ferro as his real teacher.
      The evidence favours the claim and nothing credible contradicts it, but it falls short of establishing it.
      under Maeda Mitsuyo (1916)
      fact_checkassessed by FSMverified
      Frederico Muñoz
      Researcher, Martialis
      6 sources expand_more
      fact_check
      Carlos's own quoted account of training under Maeda; Silva et al. attribute Donato's contrary statement to spite, later reversed. Drysdale names Jacyntho Ferro as his real teacher.
      visibilityFirst-hand
      “chefiada pelo competentissimo prof. Conde Koma. Aqui, depois de algumas demosntrações, organisou um gymnasio e eu [Carlos] fui um dos primeiros alunos [...] há registos que Maeda deu aulas, em 1916, no Paysandu Sport Club, em Belém, cidade onde Carlos residia com a sua família”
      — SILVA, Elton; CORRÊA, Eduardo. Muito antes do MMA: O legado dos precursores do Vale Tudo no Brasil e no mundo. 2020.info
      “Fui aluno do célebre Conde Koma, no Pará [...] e nessa época Carlos Gracia também estava aprendendo”
      — SILVA, Elton; CORRÊA, Eduardo. Muito antes do MMA: O legado dos precursores do Vale Tudo no Brasil e no mundo. 2020.info
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      “Esclarecer a verdade, isto é, dizer que o Sr. Gracie nunca foi diplomado por Conde Koma (que nem ao menos conhece)”
      — SILVA, Elton; CORRÊA, Eduardo. Muito antes do MMA: O legado dos precursores do Vale Tudo no Brasil e no mundo. 2020.info
      alt_routeIndirect
      “Pela Escola Koma, accentuou, de onde sahiram os Gracies, pretendo difundir em São Paulo o systema de defesa pessoal, obedecendo a um critério especial para cada classe social”
      — Elton Silva; Eduardo Corrêa. (2020). Muito antes do MMA: O legado dos precursores do Vale Tudo no Brasil e no mundoinfo
      “De alguma forma havia os irmãos Gracie. O pai deles era dono de circo e o Conde Koma era próximo dele. E acontecei que os filhos se tornaram discípulos do Conde Koma e aprenderam Judô”
      — Elton Silva; Eduardo Corrêa. (2020). Muito antes do MMA: O legado dos precursores do Vale Tudo no Brasil e no mundoinfo
      blockdisputes alt_routeIndirect
      “Carlos wasn’t Kano and neither was he a Kodokan graduate. In fact, he didn’t hold a black-belt or even any certification under any other style. According to the evidence available, his real teacher was a famed sportsman of the Brazilian Amazon called Jacyntho Ferro.”
      — Drysdale, Robert. (2023). The Rise and Evolution of Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: From Vale-Tudo, to Carlson Gracie, to its Democratization info

    Sources

    visibilityFirst-hand
    História - Paysandu Sport Clublink
    Paysandu Sport Club - Wikipédialink

    Identifiers

    https://martial.is/entity/01KJJAWN29MA64W22606R3WD8Z
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    Plain text
    Muñoz, Frederico (YEAR_PLACEHOLDER). Paysandu Sport Club. In Martialis: Martial Arts Lineage Database. https://martial.is/entity/01KJJAWN29MA64W22606R3WD8Z - CC BY-SA 4.0. Accessed ACCESSED_DATE_PLACEHOLDER.
    BibTeX
    @incollection{martialis_01KJJAWN29MA64W22606R3WD8Z, author = {Muñoz, Frederico}, title = {Paysandu Sport Club}, booktitle = {Martialis: Martial Arts Lineage Database}, year = {YEAR_PLACEHOLDER}, url = {https://martial.is/entity/01KJJAWN29MA64W22606R3WD8Z}, urldate = {ACCESSED_DATE_PLACEHOLDER}, note = {CC BY-SA 4.0} }
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