Locations (1)
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location_onBelémwarning No sources cited
Instructors (1)
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Maeda Mitsuyo1916
Trained here (1)
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Carlos Graciesports_martial_artsKōdōkan Jūdō ProbablebalanceProbable – conflicting evidence recordedCarlos's own quoted account of training under Maeda; Silva et al. attribute Donato's contrary statement to spite, later reversed. Drysdale names Jacyntho Ferro as his real teacher.The evidence favours the claim and nothing credible contradicts it, but it falls short of establishing it.under Maeda Mitsuyo (1916)
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6 sources expand_moreFrederico MuñozResearcher, Martialisfact_checkCarlos's own quoted account of training under Maeda; Silva et al. attribute Donato's contrary statement to spite, later reversed. Drysdale names Jacyntho Ferro as his real teacher.visibilityFirst-hand“chefiada pelo competentissimo prof. Conde Koma. Aqui, depois de algumas demosntrações, organisou um gymnasio e eu [Carlos] fui um dos primeiros alunos [...] há registos que Maeda deu aulas, em 1916, no Paysandu Sport Club, em Belém, cidade onde Carlos residia com a sua família”
“Fui aluno do célebre Conde Koma, no Pará [...] e nessa época Carlos Gracia também estava aprendendo”
blockdisputes“Esclarecer a verdade, isto é, dizer que o Sr. Gracie nunca foi diplomado por Conde Koma (que nem ao menos conhece)”
alt_routeIndirect“Pela Escola Koma, accentuou, de onde sahiram os Gracies, pretendo difundir em São Paulo o systema de defesa pessoal, obedecendo a um critério especial para cada classe social”
“De alguma forma havia os irmãos Gracie. O pai deles era dono de circo e o Conde Koma era próximo dele. E acontecei que os filhos se tornaram discípulos do Conde Koma e aprenderam Judô”
blockdisputes alt_routeIndirect“Carlos wasn’t Kano and neither was he a Kodokan graduate. In fact, he didn’t hold a black-belt or even any certification under any other style. According to the evidence available, his real teacher was a famed sportsman of the Brazilian Amazon called Jacyntho Ferro.”
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Muñoz, Frederico (YEAR_PLACEHOLDER). Paysandu Sport Club. In Martialis: Martial
Arts Lineage Database. https://martial.is/entity/01KJJAWN29MA64W22606R3WD8Z - CC
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@incollection{martialis_01KJJAWN29MA64W22606R3WD8Z, author = {Muñoz, Frederico},
title = {Paysandu Sport Club}, booktitle = {Martialis: Martial Arts Lineage
Database}, year = {YEAR_PLACEHOLDER}, url =
{https://martial.is/entity/01KJJAWN29MA64W22606R3WD8Z}, urldate =
{ACCESSED_DATE_PLACEHOLDER}, note = {CC BY-SA 4.0} }
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